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Post by grabula on Oct 28, 2014 11:09:04 GMT
So I see a lot of talk about things I don't usually see on typical gaming forums. I know robotech has a huge fanbase,and of course some people are coming from the RPG side of things. I'm just wondering what people's backgrounds are as far as gaming goes? I'll start:
I'm a huge gaming nerd. My dad introduced me to DnD when I was around 6. I started playing Battletech around 84, 85 and eventually discovered Rogue Trader, later 40K. Since then I've played way too many wargames lol, some historical, some fantasy, some scifi, I've definitely got some gamer ADD. I started getting into the hobby side around 1996 and have worked my way up to scratch building my own models on occasion. Recently I've had to cut back on gaming and play some Spartan Games stuff, Infinity and I'm slowly moving away from 40K for various reasons. During all that time I've also done some RPG's, a lot more when I was younger but haven't been in one or run one in about 6 years.
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Post by Edsel on Oct 29, 2014 3:11:52 GMT
I've been a gamer for a long time. I'm 52 years old. The first true war game I played was near the end of my 3rd grade school year (1972). That would have made me 9 or 10 years old. I was visiting a school friend and he had an Avalon Hill game: "Panzer Blitz." This appealed to me greatly since my father was the cannoneer in a Sherman tank during WW2. For years I played a variety of board war games. I didn't get into RPGs until around 1980, I was finally able to drive to the University of Oklahoma bookstore and buy D&D. In 1983 I joined a local gaming club and got introduced to a wide array of games.
My second RPG was Champions and I've had every edition of the Champions/Hero System game ever since. However nowadays our group mostly plays Savage Worlds and OVA.
The gaming club got me into my first miniatures games. Sword & the Flame (25mm colonial British & western armies vs. Zulus, Dervishes, Pathans, Boxers, Beors, etc). Napoleonics (15mm), American Civil War (15mm). Naval miniatures from ancients to WW2.
I got into Warhammer and 40K during their infancy (Rogue Trader era), but dropped out of that by 2nd Edition. However I got back into 40K with 5th Edition and am still heavily involved in it. I have Imperial Fists Space Marines and Orks. I also was a Star Fleet Battles player and got into Battletech as well.
My first anime was Starblazers back when it was in syndication on US television. Then there is a gap of years in anime until a local comic shop got anime VHS tapes to rent. Bubblegun Crisis got me back into anime. I currently own about 300 discs of anime. Surprisingly I saw my first episode of Robotech 2 years ago.
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Post by Jaymz on Oct 29, 2014 3:20:42 GMT
Not to burst your bubble grab but Robotech's fanbase is far from huge. I dare say the bulk of it bought into the kickstarter. That aside....
My gaming background started with Top Secret SI. I had no one to game with so I made up stories using the game. Next up was the Star Wars RPG 1st ed by West End Games. Not long after was Rifts and then the rest of the Palladium line and some other games along the way.
Miniature gaming started with Battletech in the early 90's. That was followed by Battlespace, Aerotech, Heavy gear, Mekton Zeta, Jovian Chronicles and Star Blazers Fleet Batttles
Edsel - Since our anime origins seems to be similar (I too was big on Star Blazers), do you recall Battle of the Planets and Force Five?
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Post by grabula on Oct 29, 2014 6:42:32 GMT
Jaymz, I gotta disagree. Most of the gamers I know are fans, and I know quite a few non gamers who also enjoy it. It's been around for a long time. I'm not sure how many bought into the KS but I think you'd be surprised at how may more people are fans and just didn't bother or had no interest. If I were ambitious enough to prove it I'd email HG to see if I could get an idea of sales but I'm not lol.
Robotech was my first but I was a fan of Starblazers (I can't get the theme song from my head whenever I say 'starblazers' lol). Battle of the Planets was pretty good.
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Post by Jaymz on Oct 29, 2014 14:46:42 GMT
I think you'd find yourself quite disappointed to the sales numbers. Believe me I've been involved in countless numbers of discussions on the matter.
Palladium is the sole example of actual successful robotech product. TSC (the animation) has only made money due to the 4 (or us it 5?) rereleased they've done. Most bought in similar numbers as previous version (or less) thus an indication of being the same people.
I am no less a fan but I am by no means not knowledgeable of the reality of robotech's place in anime or the size of its fan base.
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Post by mcwong73 on Nov 15, 2014 13:32:29 GMT
There's probably a larger casual fan base for Robotech/Macross than you think, but I think Jaymz may be right that all the tabletop gamer Robotech fans could be found in the KS.
In Australia the more engaged anime/manga fans would know Robotech as being a re-dub of Macross, which they would recognise as being something that inspired Neon Genesis Evangelion but likely would never have watched either. It may be just me, but the large majority of anime fans I've met are all very early thirties and under. Evangelion is usually their Japanese stompy robot entry point to anime - anyone else noticed this?
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 15, 2014 17:11:04 GMT
Age-wise I think you are dead on. My daughter only likes Macross because I got her to watch it and by extension Robotech and then a some Gundam.
It's the older anime fans , like many of us here, that think back to "real" robot shows like Macross and Gundam as well as "super" robot shows like Getter Robo etc.
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Post by ocksu on Nov 16, 2014 15:22:54 GMT
I started playing AD&D in the mid/late 80s and branched off into Robotech shortly thereafter because I was a HUGE fan of the series from several years prior. I then dabbled in TMNT and Rifts and Star Wars before going back into D&D. I have about 2500 points of Chaos Space Marines that I love dearly but do not get the chance to play all that often. I am also a big video gamer though not as much as I was when I was younger. I loved RPG video games all the way back to "Adventure" for Atari progressing through Zelda, Dragon Warrior, various Ultima and King's Quest games, Phantasy Star, Shining Force, Final Fantasy, Elder Scrolls, etc. I started playing MMOs in 2001 with Dark Age of Camelot and went from there on to WoW, Warhammer, SWToR, Guild Wars 1/2, ESO, Rift, etc.
My first anime was G-Force (Gatchaman ?) in the early, early 80s followed by Starblazers and then Robotech and Voltron. Robotech was always my favorite. I still have the VHS tapes from where I recorded the series (except for the episode where Claudia recounts her relationship with Roy.... missed that episode somehow) off the air when the series ran again locally in the late 80s. The commercials contained on those tapes are awesome.
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 16, 2014 16:02:44 GMT
I think you may be thinking of Battle of the Planets. G-force was a later redo (Though they were called G-Force IN Battle of the Planets) by Turner Broadcasting that was......REALLY BAD (not that Battle of the Planets was a great transfer from Japan to North America to begin with). LOL
I was always more of a Starblazers (and thus Yamato) guy. Though Robotech got me into Macross.
Do you remember Force Five? (5 shows, shown on specific days of the week every week) Starvengers (Getter Robo G), Danguard Ace, Gaiking, Spaceketeers, and Grandizer.
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Post by ocksu on Nov 16, 2014 16:51:14 GMT
I dunno. I know that I have very specific memories of the term "G-Force" but if they used that in Battle of the Planets, that may have been it. We're talking somewhere around 1979-1980.
I do not remember Force Five or any of the other shows you mentioned. The only anime I remember (from 1985 or prior) beyond those that I mentioned was Tranzor Z but I didn't care for it very much.
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 16, 2014 18:12:10 GMT
Most of them were "super" robot shows so i can understand not remembering them. Starblazers and Robotech were more militaristic/"realistic" and they stuck with me more than the others as well.
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Post by mcwong73 on Nov 16, 2014 23:06:03 GMT
It's commonly known as G Force in Australia, even though it was the original Gatchaman.
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Post by megatrons2nd on Nov 17, 2014 2:49:31 GMT
I think you may be thinking of Battle of the Planets. G-force was a later redo (Though they were called G-Force IN Battle of the Planets) by Turner Broadcasting that was......REALLY BAD (not that Battle of the Planets was a great transfer from Japan to North America to begin with). LOL I was always more of a Starblazers (and thus Yamato) guy. Though Robotech got me into Macross. Do you remember Force Five? (5 shows, shown on specific days of the week every week) Starvengers (Getter Robo G), Danguard Ace, Gaiking, Spaceketeers, and Grandizer. I remember all of those... As to my Gaming: I started playing with the original D&D, just after the Advanced D&D was released. Then my cousin and I created a game that we played for a little while(we were like 10 or something so it was stupid simple) Started Battletech followed by playing Rifts, Robotech, Macross II, TMNT, Nightbane(Nightspawn originally)and after the bomb. Tried the Star Wars RPG from West End Games, and the entire White Wolf game set. Didn't pick up 40K until the late 90's when I also played Vor The Maelstrom. Did a stint with the Mage Knight, and the Mechwarrior Clix game. Somewhere in there I played MtG, way back with the original cards were printed. The only games I still play are 40K and Battletech. Hopefully Robotech will do well enough to get others interested.
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Post by Harlock on Dec 6, 2014 3:05:47 GMT
I started playing D&D in third grade way back in 1981. I played many of the TSR releases like Boot Hill and Gang Busters. I played their Marvel Superheroes game as well, which came out in 1985 iirc. I mostly came back to D&D after everything, trying out new games now and again like most of us do, I'm sure. As for war game and skirmish games, mostly Warhammer Fantasy with a smattering of Heroscape.
Somehow, I missed any news about the Robotech RPG Tactics game until four days ago. I am making up for lost time! I ordered two starter sets for my son and I plus a Zentraedi command and artillery squad. Really looking forward to this game! Looks like it can be played quickly or you can add more points for epic games.
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Post by Hastati on Dec 8, 2014 7:06:17 GMT
I started playing board wargames (Panzerblitz) and miniature wargames around 1973 when I was 8. I then added in D&D around 1978. I am still doing all three types of gaming more than 40 years later. I got into Robotech when it was first broadcast in the US. There had really never been anything like it before and it had a huge impact in my RPG gaming circle. Fast forward 30 years and I have about 200 Robotech models to put together.
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Post by Edsel on Dec 8, 2014 14:03:30 GMT
Wow Hastati you've almost got the same gaming history I have. PanzerBlitz and D&D, etc.
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Post by Galahad on Dec 8, 2014 23:28:07 GMT
My dad was a D&D player since it came out in the 70s, raised me and my brother on it and Battletech. I discovered Palladium in the 90s, starting with Robotech then branching out into Rifts, Heroes Unlimited, etc. Palladium was the first system I got into that I felt like it was my own, my dad hadn't introduced me to it, I played it with my friends rather than my family and I played it online through the wonder of Play-By-E-Mail. Friends had also introduced me to Cyberpunk 2020 in the early 90s and through that I found the Bubblegum Crisis RPG and the Fuzion system. I bounced between Palladium and Fuzion for a couple years before d20 came out and blew everything wide open and the d20 system became my everything for a while. I was always into Anime. Robotech, of course, which led to the far superior (IMO) Macross, then Gundam, Bubblegum Crisis, you name it. Start of a lifelong obsession there. On the Wargaming front, as I said, I was doing Battletech for as long as I can remember. My dad had a game store in the early 90s and I was buying Warhammer minis at cost with my allowance because I thought they looked cool, grabbed a couple of the 2nd edition codices because of all the art and fluff, but didn't actually start playing until 3rd edition. About the same time I also got into Necromunda and Mordheim because they were cool and I liked the skirmish style rules. I played off and on over the years until I got involved in some of the 40k forums. The old one GW had for a little while, then when they closed it someone told me about Bolter & Chainsword...then I got a PM from Jezlad who saw I was outspoken and involved but was wanting more than B&C's format allowed, he recruited me to the forum he had started called Heresy-Online where I quickly ended up becoming a mod, influencing a lot of the forum rules and layout before becoming Co-Admin with Jezlad. I spearheaded a lot of innovative projects at the time (The hypertext glossary, the Combat Calculator, the Adoptables, etc) and generally acted as the voice of Heresy since Jezlad's personality didn't lend itself to public relations...he started heresy after he got banned from everywhere else LOL. But eventually I got a new job with a different schedule, suddenly I didn't have time for Warhammer, wasn't online at the same time as my British colleagues (I worked graveyards, which meant my 'daytime' was about the same as theirs across the pond) eventually I stopped playing, stopped contributing, stopped wargaming. When I was on Heresy I was somewhat famous for my modeling and conversions and infamous for my inability to paint. Last few years I've been doing boardgames and squeezing in some RPG sessions when I can. RTT is the first time I've sat down at a wargaming table in a few years and it has been pretty fun so far.
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Post by reddragon162 on Dec 10, 2014 2:23:00 GMT
I had gamer friends growing up, but its something that I never got into until I had graduated from high school and had started working. A co-worker invited me to his gaming group, and oddly enough it was the same group that all my friends was already in. It was mostly D&D without much else. After I gotout of the military and moved back home my old friends were playing 40k along with the FF 40k rpgs, so I got into those then.
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Post by brian on Dec 10, 2014 17:24:58 GMT
Started playing Battletech maybe around '91 or '92. Picked up Mechwarrior 2nd edition, but my buddies and I didn't really understand "roleplaying" so we just used it to build pilots that we'd then use in Battletech. Was then introduced to D&D in maybe '94 or '95. Got into Champions in '96 and stuck with that for a long long time. Played around with 40K off and on over the years. I have about half a chapter of Space Marines. People call them the Dust Angels because of the amount of playing time they don't get. It's been two or three years since I took them out of their boxes.
I don't play much of anything anymore unless it's with a small handful of friends. Every few weeks we'll get together and play something, but being an adult and having responsibilities sucks. I'm hoping Robotech will be a faster game to play than Battletech.
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Post by Galahad on Dec 11, 2014 2:58:07 GMT
Unsurprisingly, seems like a lot of us have Battletech experience
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Post by djdood on Dec 26, 2014 22:03:52 GMT
I'm a long-time TFG/ADB Star Fleet Battles/Federation Commander player and contributor, so I come from a tactical (hex-based) tabletop "war game" background. Dabbled with Battletech and many other games, back in the day.
Recently played a lot of Fantasy Flight's X-Wing minis game (hexless) and have been doing a lot of work on ADB/Mongoose's A Call to Arms Star Fleet (hexless).
RPGs and me have never been a long-term mix. I do end up buying a lot of the sourcebooks as reference for other things, so I have all the old Robotech RPG books, etc.
I've always been a huge anime fan, especially "giant robo" stuff, since being turned on to them by the Shogun Warriors here in the US (which were really Go Nagai's creations) along with Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato. Robotech hit about a decade later for me, and I instantly fell in love with Studio Neu's iconic mecha designs. Loved the Macross saga, especially every scene Minmei was not in.
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Post by merknight79 on Dec 27, 2014 14:22:38 GMT
RPGs of ALL kinds from Palladium and AD&D to the FU system and a Transformers RPG that I created. Have been gaming since I was 10 (So, in April that will be 26 years). I played TT minis games like Battletech before that and started playing 40K in 2nd Edition. I have owned armies and played extensively games like Warhammer Fantasy and Battle Fleet Gothic (My favorite GW game), War Machine and Hordes, Conflict, Starship Troopers, all ranges of Click Games, Flames of War, etc etc etc...
I also previously owned a Comic and Game store in Jacksonville Florida called Broadsword.
As far as Robotech's fan base....It is far more extensive than some of you are giving it credit for. The quirk about the Robotech fan base is that many of us are quite reserved and private. Robotech fans, especially those who experienced the arrival as kids in the 80s, maintain our collections of videos and figures in almost shrine like conditions and share the love we have with our children. Many don't give the Robotech fan base its due because we aren't as fanatical and exuberant as many of the Manga junkies.
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Post by InitiatedNeophyte on Jan 4, 2015 5:58:44 GMT
My oldest brother was real big into gaming, especially D&D. This rubbed off on me, especially the books I enjoyed reading (Elric of Melnibone was the first series I read after finishing Encyclopedia Brown). So, I've had that "world" in my head from about the age of 12, maybe earlier.
I remember watching Voltron alongside He-Man and GI Joe. That was the first time I'd ever seen a stompy robot and thought it was great, but disliked the formulaic battles. (seriously, just make the huge sword and chop the monster in half from the get-go!)
Had very few friends as a kid, so it was the computer that introduced me to games. Started with really simple games in the early 80's. I remember playing Mech Warrior in the late 80's. I loved being in control of the huge stompy robots; from choosing the weapons load out, to using terrain to get advantage on the enemy. That game was just too much fun. I never had any direct contact with Battletech, but I wish I had. I'm sure I would have enjoyed it.
I watched all of Macross (I think that was the anime) back in college. My roommate had all the VHS tapes (probably still does). I thought the story was a little sappy, but I enjoyed the battles.
Fast forward to today and I have played too much D&D (getting difficult to find a group I really enjoy playing with). I have played some Flames of War; it was the German vehicles that drew me in as well as the history. I spend a lot of time playing board games, since they are relatively easy to pick up and play for a few hours.
I honestly bought these Robotech models on the cheap in order to build, paint and look at them. I'm considering building a WH40K Tau army for the same reason. That said, I would love to start playing Robotech Tactics regularly. I'm hoping that a trip to my LGS will have me finding a few friendly opponents.
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Post by warchild9 on Jan 5, 2015 20:37:12 GMT
Compared to you guys I am lacking in gaming experience......
Started playing 40k I'm 1997/ 1998 and still play it on occasions. Started playing infinty a few years back. Had models for other games but never really played them (war machine, fow, battle tech, malifaux). Never really got into the rpg scene. Just mainly miniature games.
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Post by Grendal on Jan 6, 2015 17:10:28 GMT
I started in Jr High playing red box D&D, then we advanced to the 2nd edition AD&D. My second RPG was actually Robotech, and I still have the origional first edition books! I pretty much played them all in College, GURPS, Champions, Shadowrun, Traveller, etc.... I also started 40K and have had the same Eldar Army for over 25 years, even have an origional Eldar Avatar. Played Mage Knight, and all the Clix varities, Battletech, Star Fleet Battles and currently play the new X-wing a bunch. I jumped at the kickstarter for RPG Tactics because I was always a huge Robotech fan from the cartoons and the Macross Anime.
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Post by captkaruthors on Jan 6, 2015 21:49:27 GMT
My foray into gaming was with D&D and AD&D 2nd edition. Then came TMNT and other Strangeness and Robotech. I loved the shit out of those games. We played it all the time. Then I showed an advertisement in an X-Men comic to my friend Rolf. It was the first ad for Rifts featuring the awesome Kevin Long piece of the Dynabot smashing some other robot into the pavement. That piece of artwork got us interested in Rifts. We had a good group of gamers and played some great campaigns. I still follow Rifts and buy the books, but I haven't actually played since 1998. Some day I'd like to get into it again. In the meantime, I do artwork of RPG characters, etc. from Rifts for commission or for friends or for myself as a way of reminiscing about that stuff. As for wargaming, my start came with Star Wars miniatures battles by West End games played a demo game of that at GenCon (back when it was in Milwaukee..where it should truly belong)...then I discovered Rogue Trader...later 2nd edition, and have been playing 40k ever since. I've played 40k in every edition and own 8 armies. I've played just about every Miniatures game in some capacity...but the main draw for me was the 40k fluff and background. Necromunda was huge where I used to live and we played a lot of that stuff too. BFG was fun for a while, and I think one of the best GW games ever made. I've played just about every clix game, board game, and card game...I was a huge Star Wars CCG player and would play in tournaments all the time for that. I was quite good at that game on the local and state level for a time. Then when Decipher lost the license, I moved onto Lord of the Rings CCG and later dabbled in the LotR miniatures game from GW. However, my passion had always been all 40k, all the time at this point. Now? I'm lucky if I can play any kind of game once a month...but even now 40k has lost it's luster for me. When I heard that Robotech was going to get a miniatures game..I couldn't wait to play it. I now have shelved my 40k in favor of Robotech. The passion I had for 40k is gone. After 25+ years of being heavily involved in 40k and the tournament scene...I just don't really care for the direction the game has taken. So for me, Robotech is now my guilty pleasure when I actually get the time to play.
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Post by entropomancer on Jan 7, 2015 22:17:36 GMT
For me, started playing in the late 80s early 90s. DnD with family. About 93-94ish, found robotech was my first foray in running a game. The late 90s between normal teenage life was alot of rifts, champions, top secret, DnD 3rd, white wolf and many others. Miniature wise the robotech show/rpg lured me into battletech. Which lead to 40k, malifaux, FOW, heavy gear, warmahordes, Infinity, urban war, starfleet battles (gorn tug all day!) what I play still to this day is 40k, infinity, pathfinder and scion and now robotech
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Post by goodson on Feb 24, 2015 2:21:32 GMT
I started with the red box D&D set back in the 80s (I still have most of the blue dice!). In high school I ran into Grendal from a few posts up. We moved to 2nd edition and then played pretty much anything we could get our hands on: from Car Wars, Starfleet Battles, Shogun, Axis and Allies, Paranoia, some GURPS. We also played the heck out of the original Robotech RPG, although I have to handle the books carefully now because they are falling apart. More recently, Grendal drug me into 40K about 6 or 7 years ago. I have a decent collection of orks, but I don't play them that often. Lately, I've gotten into the X-wing minis game, and now, I've got the RRT box set.
The biggest challenge now is finding time to play and finding people to play with that have time to play.
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Post by kryptt on Feb 24, 2015 6:28:21 GMT
As a child I started with the choose your own adventure books and board games. Then as a teen I bought the battletech 3rd ed box. After that I played some dnd, MtG and the card games for Star Wars and Star Trek from the 90's. Around this time I got into the robotech RPG books. While at a friends house I saw my first space marine. After playing my first game of 40k I quit playing everything else. Then in the late 90's I discovered Full Thrust and got into that since I love starships. Unfortunatly not many people were into it. They were more into 40k so I bought the new 3rd ed box and have been playing for years. I've also played space hulk, necromunda, and inquisitor. Back in 2013 I was on dakka and looking at the 40k threads when I came across the fact that PB was still around (to my amazement) and that they were producing a macross miniature game. Ever since the RRT campaign I've stopped with playing 40k minis games. Now I'm playing RRT and RPGing robotech and dark heresy.
I've also played video games since the 80's to now.
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Post by CappenVerra on Feb 26, 2015 0:47:24 GMT
As a child in the 70s and 80s, my first "wargame" was playing with GI Joes with my older brother. We would set up battles and make up rules that would involve rolling dice to figure out who would get hit and who would die. I watched the Robotech cartoon series (Minmey was hot! ) and read all the books from PB and then, like all other kids, moved on to other things.
As an young teenager I player a lot of Risk and Axis and Allies. One day, my buddy talked to me about this new game called "Rogue Trader" and that kicked off my long (almost 25 years) love affair with 40K. I've played almost every 40k army under the sun and, as my wife has stated, an addiction to cocaine would probably have been cheaper than my addiction to 40K.
I have also dabbled in WFB, WarmaHordes and Bloodbowl.
I am also an avid board gamer and have played a whack load of Risk, Axis and Allies, Tide of Iron, Junta, Memoir 44, Empires in Arms (an awesome, discontinued game from Avalon Hill) and other more social games such as Zombicide, Pandemic, Ticket to Ride, Settlers of Catan, etc.
Last year, the same buddy who introduced me to 40K, introduced me to X-Wing. (I really need to stop talking to this guy. He is making me poor. )
Now I spend my time playing X-wing and Robotech.
Sometimes, I even manage to pay attention to my wife and 2 kids....
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